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| js1000 |
Posted: Mar 3 2009, 05:15 AM
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US Government Once Again Concedes Vaccines Cause Autism
'Generation Rescue, Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey's Los Angeles-based non-profit autism organization, today announced that the United States Government has once again conceded that vaccines cause autism. The announcement comes on the heels of the recently unsealed court case of Bailey Banks vs. HHS. The ruling states, "The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine...proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to PDD [Autism]".' http://gnn.tv/headlines/19763/Vaccine_Cour...ebate_Continues -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Mar 9 2009, 07:53 AM
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Scientists to be Given Power to Decide on Vaccinations
from next month, the health secretary will lose his power to rule which jabs should form part of a national programmes to immunise children against a host of diseases. Instead, a change in the law will mean recommendations from Government scientists on vaccinations must automatically be followed. Critics accused the Government of "passing the buck" over contentious decisions to an unelected committee which was answerable to no-one.' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthne...ccinations.html Concerns Over Safety of Cervical Cancer Vaccine After 1,300 Girls Experience Adverse Side-effects 'More than 1,300 schoolgirls have experienced adverse reactions to the controversial cervical cancer jab. Doctors have reported that girls aged just 12 and 13 have suffered paralysis, suffered convulsions and sight problems after being given the vaccine. Dozens were described as having pain 'in extremity' while others suffered from nausea, muscle weakness, fever, dizziness and numbness.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...er-vaccine.html -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| athinaios |
Posted: Apr 25 2009, 08:44 PM
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Evidence presented in court falls short to convince.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/12/c...o_n_166491.html
"..The evidence "is weak, contradictory and unpersuasive," concluded Special Master Denise Vowell. "Sadly, the petitioners in this litigation have been the victims of bad science conducted to support litigation rather than to advance medical and scientific understanding" of autism. Science years ago reached the conclusion that there's no connection, but Thursday's rulings in a trio of cases still have far-reaching implications _ offering reassurance to parents scared about vaccinating their babies because of a small but vocal anti-vaccine movement. Some vaccine-preventable diseases, including measles, are on the rise, and last fall a Minnesota baby who hadn't been vaccinated against meningitis died of that disease..." Of course this decision does not mean that all the other cases aren't valid... Sadly, the schools fail to teach logic, reasoning, and what the scientific method is. Since, the post above refers to HPV [link], that's another bogus claim by those who oppose vaccines, in this case many the religious nuts because it has to do with women and sex! Anyway, yes, there's an effective vaccine for this preventable cervical cancer. Did I mention before that vaccines (and modern science) have doubled human longevity in the last 100 years?.. -------------------- PANATHINAIKOS... 100 Years of history! and for the love of the sport, dammit!
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| js1000 |
Posted: Apr 27 2009, 04:30 AM
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clean water/sanitation and better living conditions are whats responsible for longevity not vaccines. why are claims made by those who raise legitamate questions about vaccines described as bogus ?? as though they have an agenda, heck even the spanish government withdrew that hpv vaccine through safety concerns after so many girls suffered side effects, are these all bogus claims or just coincedence ?? no matter how many cases of autism occour shortly after vaccines i don't think there's anything in this whole universe that can convince pro vaccine people of any risks. sadly schools fail to teach/encourage critical thinking and analysis and produce generation after generation of obidient workers hey make sure you get your swine flu vaccine to prevent an outbreal you can count me out though, i think i'll take my chances -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| athinaios |
Posted: Apr 27 2009, 05:56 PM
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Because these claims or doubts lack any merit!
Because I'm not saying that everything is safe. But to make unsbustantiated claims is a disservice to humanity. Because critical thinking does not mean frivolous rejections or making cases from unrelated events. When you say critical thinking is important you don't ask those who make the claims to offer any thinking but only be critical without offering any proof for their claims. Several court cases--where such claims are presented & examined--have ruled against the anti-vaccination crowd. Because it is the PROCESS by which science produces. The same process is responsible for doubling the human life in the last 100 years! It's the same PROCESS that has trained doctors, engineers, and all sorts of people. You use the fruits of the same PROCESS when you go to the doctor (and not to a witch), and you fly on an airplane. In other words, it's the PROCESS by which claims must be based on verifiable evidence, open to challenge & revision, and the ability to identify and connect the relevant dots. I don't know much about the swine flu. Even though I wish this does not become an epidemic, I would like to see if a vaccine cures or prevents this disease. And, yes, I'd take the advice of the scientific community over those who are critical for the wrong reasons. Because my CHANCES (nothing is certain but the eventual death) for survival are going to be BETTER with the scientific consensus than those who just doubt but present no supporting evidence OR reason. Perhaps it's evolution and natural selection that are trying to get rid of those who don't believe in science & modern medicine. -------------------- PANATHINAIKOS... 100 Years of history! and for the love of the sport, dammit!
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| js1000 |
Posted: Apr 28 2009, 06:00 AM
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i'm hanging in man and i avoid doctors vaccines and the tripe that 'doctors' prescribe. the only use in my experience for GPs(family doctor) is for time off work slightly off topic; here in the UK they're cancelling some flights to mexico and those returning from mexico are being checked out for this flu, we are being told that anyone who may have come into contact with the original 20 or so people who have this flu in mexico could be at risk. what i want to know is where did these original 20 or so people get it from ?? -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| athinaios |
Posted: Apr 28 2009, 07:21 PM
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The One ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: SuperMods Posts: 2,833 Member No.: 122 Joined: 17-September 03 |
Actually it's a big thing here in the US, especially in the border states of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California.
Even here in NY, there are students who seems to have it because they recently visited Mexico! Some schools closed for a few days to disinfect the premises. This may be like the avian flu of a few years ago that was threatening our species. Yes, some people keep hanging on despite nature wanting to kill them! Actually, it's amazing not only that humans appeared but that they survived... which is not a sure thing... the dinos lived longer than humans have and where are they now??? I recently read that humans were down to about 5,000 members.... so close to extinction... Nature has killed, 98.8% of all species! -------------------- PANATHINAIKOS... 100 Years of history! and for the love of the sport, dammit!
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| js1000 |
Posted: May 15 2009, 07:59 AM
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anyone trust the safety of vaccines should take a look at this report. also regarding swine flu it seems it occoured before. i found this on russell blaylock's website talking about the outbreak in 1976 'I was in the military during the first swine flu scare in 1976. At the time it became policy that all soldiers would be vaccinated for swine flu. As a medical officer I refused and almost faced a court martial, but the military didn't want the bad publicity. Despite the assurance by all the experts in virology ... the epidemic never materialized. What did materialize were 500 cases of Gullian-Barre paralysis, including 25 deaths - not due to the swine flu itself, but as a direct result of the vaccine. At the time President Gerald Ford, on advice from the [Centers for Disease Control], called for vaccination of the entire population of the United States. Today, some 33 years later, we are hearing the same cries of alarm from a similar line-up of virology experts. The pharmaceutical companies are busy designing a vaccine for the swine flu in hope that this administration will make the vaccine mandatory before another vaccine-related disaster can ruin their party -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Jun 22 2009, 12:59 PM
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swine flu vaccine. anyone considering taking one of these shots might want to watch this
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| NYPAO13 |
Posted: Jul 2 2009, 03:12 PM
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the media has it set up where anyone getting sick will have the swine flu. They report that people MAY have the swine flu yet nothing is ever confimed. Line up kids in school, get you swine flu shots here is next.
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| js1000 |
Posted: Jul 4 2009, 05:48 AM
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Norway Has 23 Case of H1N1, Decides to Vaccinate Entire Population
'The Norwegian health authorities will this fall begin a program of mass vaccination against the A H1N1 flu, also called the swine flu. A total of 9.4 million doses have been ordered from the suppliers.' http://www.norwaypost.no/content/view/22196/26/ -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Jul 8 2009, 06:07 AM
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Homeless People Die After Bird Flu Vaccine Trial in poland
'The medical staff, from the northern town of Grudziadz, are being investigated over medical trials on as many as 350 homeless and poor people last year, which prosecutors say involved an untried vaccine to the highly-contagious virus. Authorities claim that the alleged victims received £1-2 to be tested with what they thought was a conventional flu vaccine but, according to investigators, was actually an anti bird-flu drug. ' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...-in-Poland.html -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| drakos13 |
Posted: Aug 3 2009, 04:20 PM
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I'm going to agree with js1000. I cannot beleive Greece is making it mandatory. Swine Flu has not existed for more than a year. How tested can the effects of this vaccine actually BE? Long term effects clearly cannot be measured in the couse of a few months. I say wait it out, before considering it. Mandatory medication is a breach of human rights. I dont care if its "for public benefit" no s%$#!, but not every one wants to take that risk. Heres an idea- instead of vaccinating, why cant we just physically quarantine people as theyre reported and diagnosed, and release them as they heal (which majority does in a week) ? -------------------- ΟΕΕΕ ΑΙΩΝΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΟΣ...ΔΕΝ ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ ΑΛΛΙΩΣ...100 ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ΠΑΝΑΘΗΝΑΪΚΟΣ!!!
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| Genome |
Posted: Aug 3 2009, 05:32 PM
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What I don't get is what are they injecting people with? Water? As far as I know there isn't a vaccine yet?
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| js1000 |
Posted: Aug 4 2009, 07:05 AM
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the ingredients of the annual flu shot; Egg proteins: including avian contaminant viruses such as avian leucosis • Gelatin: known to cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis - usually associated with sensitivity to egg or gelatin proteins • Polysorbate 80 (Tween 80): can cause severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis • Formaldehyde: known carcinogen • Triton X100: a strong detergent • Sucrose: table sugar • Resin: known to cause allergic reactions Gentamycin: an antibiotic • Thimerosal: 49.6 percent ethyl mercury (still in multidose vials) the new swine flu shot; Pandemic" H1N1 vaccine will be made in PER.C6 cells (human retinal cells) and contain either AS04 (by GlaxoSmithKline) or MF59 (by Novartis), an oil-in-water "squalene-based" adjuvant known to trigger severe autoimmunity in test animals http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context...xt=va&aid=14603 as drako pointed out i can't believe greece of all places is making this mandatory http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/greece-vacci...ine-flu-2881876 i've just returned having spent a few days in greece and a couple in FYR macedonia, it would be a shame if in future any tourist without the shot is prevented from entering greece -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| Genome |
Posted: Aug 4 2009, 01:18 PM
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If you're healthy and young (not too young of course) then just go through the motions and forget about a vaccine that may make you even more sick than you already were is my oppinion but I'm not a doctor of course...
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| js1000 |
Posted: Aug 25 2009, 10:32 AM
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half of GPs Refuse Swine Flu Vaccine Over Testing Fears
'Up to half of family doctors do not want to be vaccinated against swine flu. GPs will be first in the line for the jabs when they become available but many will decline, even though they will be offering the vaccine to their patients. More than two thirds of those who will turn the jab down believe it has not been tested enough. Most also believe the flu has turned out to be so mild in the vast majority of cases that the vaccine is not needed.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...ting-fears.html i'm sure they'll advise others to have though -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Sep 2 2009, 03:12 PM
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The Spanish Influenza Epidemic of 1918 Was Caused by Vaccinations
'When doctors had tried to suppress the symptoms of the typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid which they named paratyphoid. But when they concocted a stronger and more dangerous vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease which they didn’t have a name for. What should they call it? They didn’t want to tell the people what it really was — their own Frankenstein monster which they had created with their vaccines and suppressive medicines. They wanted to direct the blame away from themselves, so they called it Spanish Influenza. It was certainly not of Spanish origin, and the Spanish people resented the implication that the world-wide scourge of that day should be blamed on them. But the name stuck and American medical doctors and vaccine makers were not suspected of the crime of this widespread devastation — the 1918 Flu Epidemic. It is only in recent years that researchers have been digging up the facts and laying the blame where it belongs.' http://www.holistic-helper.com/articles/ar...used1918flu.htm $1.8 Billion Spent By US Government on Swine Flu Vaccines (So Far) 'Follow the money. The U.S. government has already spent over $1.8 billion dollars (our tax dollars) in purchasing vaccine antigen, virus and adjuvant from five pharmaceutical companies. So what did the government buy with our money, who got it and how much did they receive?' http://www.knowthecause.com/Newsletter/New.../Swine-Flu.aspx French Government Document Details Forced Mass Vaccination Plans From September 28th 'The document dated August 21st and signed by the French Health Minister Rosaylne Batchelot-Narquin and the French Minister of Interior, Minister of the Interior, Overseas Territories Brice Hortefeux is addressed to the heads of each of France’s defense zones. the regional prefects in charge of police and the gendamerie, the prefects of departments and the heads of regional health authorities for hospitalization. The objective of the 19-page document is the systematic vaccination of the entire French population in the period October, November, December 2009 and January 2010. Secure facilities are to be established in every region that will serve as “vaccination centers”.' http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option...mid=105&lang=en This post has been edited by js1000 on Sep 2 2009, 03:28 PM -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Sep 10 2009, 06:15 AM
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'Parents in the UK are being threatened with having their children taken into care after questioning doctors’ diagnoses or objecting to their medical care. John Hemming, a Liberal Democrat MP, who campaigns to stop injustices in the family court, said: “Very often care proceedings are used as retaliation by local authorities against ‘uppity’ people who dare to question the system.” The mother of a 13-year-old girl who became partly paralysed after being given a cervical cancer vaccination says social workers have told her the child may be removed from parental care if she (the mother) continues to link her condition with the vaccination against HPV (Human Papilloma virus).' http://righteousalliance.blogspot.com/2009...mask-slips.html -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Sep 28 2009, 10:33 AM
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H1N1 Marshall Law http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjVuBg4LpcQ..._embedded#t=159 ny nurses 'get the shot or lose your job' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7wBwOEsw2I..._embedded#t=135 -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Oct 22 2009, 06:33 AM
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Nurses Got Sick From the 'Swine Flu' Vaccine in Sweden - One Suspected Death
'Yesterday 30 people had been reporting to the authorities in Sweden that they experienced such severe side effects that they felt the need to contact a hospital. Today the number is 140. The swedish newspaper Expressen is the only one in Sweden reporting on these cases and as usual this is most likely only the tip of a rather large iceberg. UPDATE: According to Dagens Nyheter, the number of reported side effects are now a few hours later 190. 1 person dies after the injection but "no direct relation with the injection has been established". The biggest medical scandal in the history of Sweden has just started.' http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option...emid=64&lang=en the best quote is "NO DIRECT RELATION WITH THE INJECTION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED" -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Jan 12 2010, 04:51 PM
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Daily Express: Fury at Vaccine Scandal
'Hundreds of public sector workers who claim their lives have been wrecked by vaccines say the Government has abandoned them. Up to 200 doctors, nurses, firefighters, prison officers, police officers, forensic scientists and binmen say they have developed serious physical and mental health problems after injections essential for their work over the past 10 years. All have given up their jobs and some are now 60 per cent disabled.' http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150804...vaccine-scandal -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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| js1000 |
Posted: Apr 9 2010, 10:22 AM
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Indian Cervical Cancer Vaccine Programme Suspended After Four Girls Die
'The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has told Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat to immediately suspend the cervical cancer control vaccination programme for girls. The programme is part of a two-year study to look into the utility of a vaccine in public health programmes and acceptability of Gardasil, the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine made by Merck. Gardasil, available in chemist shops across the country, is marketed in India by MSD Pharmaceuticals Pvt Ltd. The programme was marred by controversy after four deaths and complications among 120 girls were reported after vaccination. The girls complained of stomach disorders, epilepsy, headaches and early menarche. Women activists fear the vaccine may impact the mental health of girls who have shown no signs of distress so far.' http://www.3dsyndication.com/showarticlers...aY1zrDKBsyLTaU= -------------------- The Meaning of "Austerity"
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